New TM Download package

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New TM Download package

Unread postby nedfumpkin » Wed Aug 04, 2010 6:15 am

http://hawkdawg.com/zips/rt3/tm/Trainmaster_1_1.zip

Trying out Reto's installer here for TM. Has everything you need to get started except maps and campaign files. Cannot be installed over a previous TM. Good for a fresh install though since everything is automated.

Looking for a guinea pig to try it out...just need a fresh copy of RT3 patched to C to C, and your ready to go.

ugh...have to go to work now.
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Re: New TM Download package

Unread postby Hawk » Wed Aug 04, 2010 7:34 am

RT3 doesn't need to be patched to 1.05 for this installer?
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Re: New TM Download package

Unread postby nedfumpkin » Wed Aug 04, 2010 3:19 pm

Actually, as it turns out, the 1.05 only contains the RT3.exe file which gets replaced so it is an unnecessary step,
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Re: New TM Download package

Unread postby Hawk » Wed Aug 04, 2010 5:04 pm

I thought there was some game fixes included in the 1.05?

Edit 1: Yep, there was a couple of fixes in the 1.05. From the 1.05 Read me:

Version 1.05 Changes
Note: This patch does NOT require you to have any prior patches installed. Whether or not you have installed patches 1.01 to 1.04, the RT3 – Coast to Coast expansion, or none of the above, this patch will work fine in any of these scenarios.

1. Fixed a multiplayer crash bug inadvertantly introduced in patch 1.04.
2. Resolved the bug that could cause trains to slow to 1 m.p.h. sometimes when approaching stations and/or service towers.
3. Fixed a bug that would cause industries with 2 possible inputs (i.e. textile mill), to produce at only half of their targeted rate, even when supplied with both inputs.

Granted #1 is relatively unimportant, but how 'bout 2 and 3?

While we're at it, is the C to C really necessary? I think the only difference between the C to C and the 1.04 patch is the extra scenarios and locos.
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Re: New TM Download package

Unread postby Blackhawk » Wed Aug 04, 2010 6:02 pm

If all 1.05 did was install a different .exe that fixed a couple issues, wouldn't a TM.exe that replaces the 1.05 RT3.exe have to include those fixes anyway in its own TM.exe since its replacing the 1.05 RT3.exe? Otherwise simply installing over the 1.05 RT3.exe with a TM.exe that doesn't include those fixes would essentially revert back to an older version of RT3. So either way if it's only the .exe that is getting replaced, I think I understand why Ned says it's an unnecessary step.
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Re: New TM Download package

Unread postby nedfumpkin » Wed Aug 04, 2010 6:20 pm

The fixes in the 1.05 are only in the exe file, which is the only file in that patch. It doesn't add any new files. Now C to C on the other hand does add a bunch of new files, most importantly 2 pk4 files that are absoutely necessary...i.e. the carsideview3 files for the locos in CTC which is the first error message to come up if it isn't installed.

The Trainmaster RT3.exe is based on the 1.06 RT3.exe. This already includes 1.05.
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Re: New TM Download package

Unread postby Hawk » Wed Aug 04, 2010 6:28 pm

AH! Got'cha! !*th_up*! :salute:
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Re: New TM Download package

Unread postby dazzharvey » Mon Jul 11, 2011 4:57 pm

I'm liking this auto install util :)
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Re: New TM Download package

Unread postby nedfumpkin » Mon Jul 11, 2011 6:45 pm

some day there will be a better version even...just hard to find the time.
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Re: New TM Download package

Unread postby Reto » Thu Feb 05, 2015 4:00 am

What happened here?
No one is playing TM?
No one discussing?
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Re: New TM Download package

Unread postby Hawk » Thu Feb 05, 2015 10:02 am

It would seem the project has been abandoned. nedfumpkin hasn't logged in in almost a year.
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Re: New TM Download package

Unread postby RulerofRails » Thu Feb 05, 2015 1:04 pm

Matter of fact, I just played TM Monopoly twice in the last couple of plays, followed by my current play of a new angle of attack on Blackhawk's beta North vs South. I am approaching this with a far different strategy this time. This map is a 80-100 year map with many events that is playable with two minor edits to remove two events which yield a game loss but are firing for wrong reasons. I PMed Blackhawk about it awhile ago, but if you want to play it I can tell you what to do or provide a temporarily fixed copy (leave the more subjective things that don't break the game to BH). What I am doing different this time: focusing on passengers more at the start. Planning to make most trains express-only mid-game with dedicated freights.

I think TM is a finished product as far as crashes and bugs go. There are some small things that could be considered small design overlooks to do with some of the supply/demand chains such as demands too small to attract cargo well, some industry loopholes, and things like the Tavern that goes crazy when gambling, but I would think of it as a patch if those things were fixed, 95% of the game is great. What it needs is more maps to make mastering it more worthwhile. I have tried to start on one myself, but find myself preferring playing than working on it. :oops:

I do agree that comments here seem to be to yourself, but non-members surely stop by to read? Maybe why I haven't posted that many. What would you like to discuss?
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Re: New TM Download package

Unread postby Blackhawk » Thu Feb 05, 2015 1:56 pm

Sorry about not making those changes to my beta map. I've been busy with other things lately... I've been searching for a better job, doing investing research, and of course a hard drive crash which got me to to buy a SDD drive, only to be followed up with a motherboard failure rendering that laptop entirely useless. So I sunk money into repairing it, and bought a used motherboard on ebay for it. I thought I checked all the stats but I had an oversight and the motherboard I bought only supported CCFL screens, and I had an LED screen. Ended up having to sink more money into it to buy a CCFL screen on ebay, and I was less than impressed with the quality of that screen compared to the LED screen. And then a couple weeks later I saw a "cheap" refurbished laptop on Lenovo's site that was light weight and good to travel with to replace the laptop I had just fixed. !hairpull!

I actually sort of thought it would be rare for anyone to try out my beta again as it's not fully completed and added to the archives. And it's a TM map which seems to have an even smaller audience. So I didn't really feel a rush to make changes to it. And the 1.07 patch ideas seemed to have stalled as well. I think that was primarily being stuck on what the last cargo should be and the best way to integrate the cargo chains.

I think the main problem with ever releasing a finalized version of North v South is that I used most of the variables and going back and looking at it now, I'll probably have no idea what variable did what and my notes on the map are probably buried in a closet somewhere.
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Re: New TM Download package

Unread postby AT41B » Sat Feb 07, 2015 7:01 pm

Where do I find the map called "North Vs South"
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Re: New TM Download package

Unread postby Hawk » Sat Feb 07, 2015 7:14 pm

Look in the Trainmaster Scenario Reviews forum.
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