Caucasus

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canis39
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Downloaded the new Caucasus map, but I can't play it - every time I get to the screen where I hit "Start", my game immediately crashes to the desktop.

I've tried changing the year from 1991 to 1992, and modifying the number of AI players, but same crash every time.

(WinXP with SP2, 1.06 patch installed).
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Interesting! I don't have that problem and I run XP SP2 with the 1.06 patch as well.

Edit 1: I noticed this map does take longer than most to load. I wonder if the size of it and other characteristics might be what is causing you problems.
What are your system specs?

I also noticed the Status Ledger is blank. That's probably because there is no Condition set to 'Always True' for it.
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Forgive me, this was my first map I made, I didnt see any maps containing Chechnya or the Caucasus nations so I was bold to make my own. Okei, so, I submitted an update version to Hawk to upload. I have reduced the building density by A LOT and now the map runs nice and smoothly on my computer. It was definitley the building density that was causing your RRT3 to crash. I got a little carried away.

I also fixed the territories so you have a choice on which territory you wish to start in upon creating a company (Russia-Chechnya, Kazakhstan-Ukraine, or Azerbaijan-Georgia-Armenia).

The only problem I have with the map now is that the AI characters are afraid to start a company and play with me, and the oil distribution I would like to have is not that heavy in Atyrau, Grozny, Baku, and so on. I have made many Oil Refineries there and what not, but trains still are stubborn not to haul a train full of oil. Maybe it can be fixed.

Let me know what ye think. Cheers!
-Jóhann
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I've had the same problem - twice at the start of year four it crashes. No doubt Hawk will tell us when the revised version is posted and I'll try again. It does take a long time to load and I'm also having same problem on Crystal Cotton (end of year 1). The only other thing that is different is that before downloading these I installed the new Granary building (although I've never used it as I haven't found a suitable scenario yet). As I can't think of any other reason why it should crash on mine and not on others I wonder if that could be anything to do with it? :(
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The updated version is now available but I think it still needs a little more work.
I've emailed Johann and made a few suggestions and pointed out a couple of things that need to be corrected.
He said he would work on it today so I would wait.

As for the crashing; I don't have the Granary installed so that may have something to do with it.
I can run both maps without any problem with just the basic 1.06 patch installed. No other extras.
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Yes, Hawk is right. I have to take some final exams today and tomorrow, but I will try my best to send Version 1.03 (I guess since its the third update? haha) over to Hawk tonight Eastern time (early morning for my time).

The things I will adjust are:
-Even less building density
-Delete ''some'' cities (I like to have towns and villages becuase I know when I found my hometown on the Iceland map, I was so happy cause my town isnt even found on most maps, so imagine someone from say Gitacy, Azerbaijan downloading this map and seeing his town there!)
-Fix the status leadger
-Fix the simulated Chechen wars so it has more ''earthquakes'' in the Chechnya territory
-Adjust the oil demand in the cities that are needed to connect so the Gold medal is at least possible to acheive and haul oil

Any other suggestions, please leave them here. As for the crashing issue, even on the first version it didnt crash on mine (XP SP2) so I dont think its the map, but I will examine it closely more to try to limit more buildings and such.

How about any positives? Do you all at least like that there is finally a map of this region? :)
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Girdi wrote:How about any positives? Do you all at least like that there is finally a map of this region? :)
Yea, I think it's great that you've done a map of this region. I believe it's a first. :D

It's probably a little difficult for the other two that have posted here to give any positive comments since the map keeps crashing on them.
Hopefully we'll get that figured out soon. :wink:
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I was able to run normal RT3 maps on my XP SP2. Now it crashes at start up. I have added a lot of small programs since last having RT3 installed.

The thing that may be causing my problem is directX 9.0. I resently installed it over directX 8.1. I also resently installed the 106 patch after re-installing the CtoC and 105 patch.

I was gone today and have company coming tonight. So, I will not be able to play the 106 version, now installed on my old computer, until late or tomorrow.

DirectX was a problem during beta testing. If I remember correctly it needed DX 8.1 to work correctly on some machines.
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I have DX 9.0c on my system, and the 1.06 patch, and I don't have a problem with RT3 crashing.

Have you recently downloaded the 1.06 patch or are you still using one of the beta versions?
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I got the CTD as well. It's a very big and crowded map, a lot of information in there! I do hope it can be fixed as I'm quite pleased with myself for finding most of the cities that need to be connected. We'll have to have another goal - how much oil can you haul befoe it CTD's? :lol:

Hope you did well in your finals, Johann. Now you can relax and fix this for us!
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Even though I haven't been able to play it, I definitely appreciate the effort! I'm a big fan of new maps, and this is a region I have never seen before in RT3, so I'm looking forward to the updated version.

My specs are: WinXP, Pentium Core2Duo 2.0 GHZ, 2 GB RAM, nVidia 8500 GT card, running DirectX 9.0c. I've never experienced a crash on any other map.
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Have you recently downloaded the 1.06 patch or are you still using one of the beta versions?
It is a new download. I'll have to try different screen sizes.

But for now I will try playing a map on my old machine.
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I sent the updated fix to Hawk. Things that have been updated are:

-Territory is now fixed for choice
-Building density is greatly reduced
-Status ledger works
-New goals have been added (lesser loads of diesel and oil to a reasonable amount)
-Oil and Diesel demands changed
-Earthquakes set to simulate Chechen wars in Chechnya territory only

So it should all be set up now. As far as finding cities, I am a big geography buff, especially in the Caucasus region (since im planning on moving to Shali within the next year) so I assume that people would know that Yerevan is in Armenia, Baku is in Azerbaijan, Grozny is in Chechnya, Atyrau is in Kazakhstan, Tblisi is in Georgia, and Kursk is in Russia just north of Ukraine. Sorry for the crowdness.

Let me know if there are any more difficulties. I am sure Hawk will post a comment when the newer version is posted.
-Jóhann
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The updated version is now available. :D
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Hawk wrote:The updated version is now available. :D
Awesome!
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Well I'm now 5 years in and its still playing so perhaps it's now o/k. Mind you I'm not doing very well and reckon I'll soon have to start afresh :( :( :(
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Well at least you got that one running. ::!**!
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I will grab the updated version and try it out, hopefully tonight or tomorrow night. Thanks!
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Well still going strong 10 years in and I'm now looking to start trying to meet the objectives one of which is to connect to Tblisi. Unfortunately there doesn't seem to be a Tblisi on the map :shock: :shock: :shock: Neither I nor the F button can produce it.

The AIs haven't formed any railroads either - just keep buying my shares.
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It's just spelled wrong in the briefing. It's spelled right in the Editor. :wink:

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